Path: utzoo!attcan!ncrcan!scocan!seanf
From: seanf@sco.COM (Sean Fagan)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: OS costs
Message-ID: <1990Sep9.012658.23353@sco.COM>
Date: 9 Sep 90 05:26:58 GMT
References: <350@usaos.UUCP> <1990Aug28.182758.29036@ico.isc.com> <599@janus.Quotron.com> <36054@unix.cis.pitt.edu>
Reply-To: seanf@sco.com (Sean Fagan)
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
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*sigh*  Once again...

In article <36054@unix.cis.pitt.edu> gray@med.pitt.edu (Gray Watson) writes:
>*I* am waiting for GNU to put out an entirely freeware release of their
>Unix.  I have heard that they have stopped development on their own because
>MACH is going to become freeware.

You heard wrong.  So far, the FSF (not GNU) has not started development of
an OS.  They *are* waiting for Mach (not MACH) to be freely available, but
that depends on a few things (such as the DoD and/or the DoC, and CMU having
it ready soon enough for them); if there are too many problems, they will go
with another system, or, *worst case* write their own kernel.

>When this hits the streets with i386 and i486 patches to it, look out!!!
>Free Unix with *SOURCE* here we come.

Right.  First of all, Mach is not UNIX(tm).  It currently looks a lot like
BSD, but that's because it also has Berkeley (and, therefore, AT&T) source
code in it.  When that code is removed (a la Mach 3.0), the non-free code is
gone, but so is the compatability.  One of the first things that the FSF
would have to do with Mach is write a set of unix-compatable library
routines.

And it's *still* not going to binary-compatable.  Which means a *lot* for
the '386 (and, of course, '486) world.  Nor will it run on a '286.  Nor will
it run DOS code.

More importantly:  nor will the FSF hand-hold customers, or put in a lot of
work, so that non-wizardly people can install it.

>p.s. No wonder the Unix companies are trying to grab as much $$ as possible.

Right.  First of all, see the reasons above.  Second of all, *you* try
selling UNIX(tm) cheaply.  uPort tried it, and they had to claim Chapter 11.
That's *bankrupt*.  They're back, now (and bigger and better than ever, as
the commercials for _Robocop II_ proclaimed 8-)), and trying again.  My best
wishes to them.

Thirdly, in reply to the attempted slur:  guess what:  almost every company
in existance tries to "grab as much $$ as possible."  This is known as
attempting to make a profit.

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