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From: chuck@trantor.harris-atd.com (Chuck Musciano)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Anti-motif crybabies should chill out, get a *life*
Message-ID: <4265@trantor.harris-atd.com>
Date: 6 Sep 90 13:11:50 GMT
References: <4875@mitech.com>
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Reply-To: chuck@trantor.harris-atd.com (Chuck Musciano)
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In article <4875@mitech.com>, gjc@mitech.com writes:
> Why must we have 5 or 10 messages from ANTI-MOTIF crybabies every
> time a simple announcement about MOTIF is posted to this mailing list?

     Got a hanky?

> Just consider this little fact:
>  * It is SUN demo center policy that NO VENDOR MAY DEMONSTRATE ANY
>    APPLICATION which uses MOTIF.
> 
> From what I saw at DECWORLD it is evident that DIGITAL for one has no such
> policy against OPEN-LOOK. 

     There is a difference, of course, between an in-house demo center and
a vendor exhibit.  There were plenty of Motif things running on Suns at
SIGGRAPH, for example.  I wonder how much OPEN LOOK stuff runs on DEC
machines at in-house DEC demo centers?

> Maybe in the future the crybabies can limit messages to one-liners only,
> or just a subject line: "I HATE MOTIF, I HATE DIGITAL/HP/IBM, I LOVE SUN"

     Feeling the pressure, eh?  Six of every ten workstations sold today are
SPARC-based.  Sun market share is approaching 40% by dollar volume.  Sun will
outsell DEC by a factor of 5 to 1 this year.  And just imagine what will
happen when those Japanese SPARC clones hit the US early next year.  Man, I
can't wait for my $2,995 SPARC machine to put on my desk at home.

     Don't think of it as giving in to mob mentality!  Think of it as jumping
on the Sun bandwagon!

> Or maybe it isn't that, maybe subject: "I CANNOT UNDERSTAND LICENSING, I ..."

     Well, I understand that free, open products cost less and are more
popular than closed, licensed ones.  Sun did a good thing by giving OPEN LOOK
away, and this brings well-deserved pressure to bear on OSF to cough up an
open standard available to everyone.  Siemens recently bit the bullet and
committed to running SVr4 on their new machines later this year.  A founding
member of OSF!  Who's next to bail out?  As Larry Dooling says, it's really
hard to load viewgraphs and press releases into your machine.  And as I've
said, the only thing open about OSF is their mouth.

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