Path: utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!xylogics!merk!spdcc!tauxersvilli!alphalpha!nazgul From: nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: GUI tools and toolkits Keywords: object C++ motif tools toolkit user interface Message-ID: <1990Sep6.154815.20341@alphalpha.com> Date: 6 Sep 90 15:48:15 GMT References: <3745@osc.COM> <737@ubbpc.UUCP> Organization: asi Lines: 50 In article <737@ubbpc.UUCP> wgh@ubbpc.UUCP (William G. Hutchison) writes: >In article <3745@osc.COM>, george@osc.COM (George Baggott) writes: >> Open Dialog -- supports Motif via a C++ toolkit and a user interface language >> that appears to be slightly more powerful than UIL. From what I understand, >> this has been around for about 5 years and is in its second incarnation. [ ... >> ... ] > > How can Open Dialog for Motif have "been around for about 5 years" >when Motif has been around for much less than 5 years? > > If you are going to mention toolkits like this, please do not tantalize us ... >mention the company, institution, or person who produces the toolkit! > > I just did a 'grep' of all messages to comp.windows.x for 1990 and I find >no reference to Open Dialog other than yours. That's Apollo marketing for you. Open Dialog is a "User Interface Management System", a rather misused term these days. It is written in C++ and runs and is supported on a variety of machines (Apollo, HP, Sun and I think DEC). You can also license the source code I believe. It has a user interface language which supports both layout and "dialog", so you can actually write an active mockup of your application without writing any real code, and you can sometimes write trivial apps (like a calculator) without any real code, although you wouldn't want to. I believe you can use it from Fortran, C, Pascal and other languages, new objects have to be written in C++ however. Anyway, it has a set of classes which support the Motif look and feel. If you really wanted to you could even write a set of classes to use the real Motif widgets - I started to once, but then left the company. These classes obviously have only been around since Motif was created, but Open Dialog and it's predecessor Domain Dialog have been around for at least 5 years. I believe it was the first commercial UIMS, and one of the first anywhere. By now you've probably figured out that you can get it from HP/Apollo. -kee BTW. There's probably a 'ue' on the end of all of those 'Dialog's for trademark reasons. -- Alphalpha Software, Inc. | motif-request@alphalpha.com nazgul@alphalpha.com |----------------------------------- 617/646-7703 (voice/fax) | Proline BBS: 617/641-3722 I'm not sure which upsets me more; that people are so unwilling to accept responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate everyone else's.