Xref: utzoo comp.windows.x:26748 comp.windows.x.motif:684 Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!pacbell!pacbell.com!decwrl!wuarchive!cs.utexas.edu!yale!mintaka!spdcc!tauxersvilli!alphalpha!nazgul From: nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif Subject: Re: OSF statements about OPEN LOOK Message-ID: <1990Sep8.060601.2512@alphalpha.com> Date: 8 Sep 90 06:06:01 GMT References: <9009052346.AA27999@erik.uucp> <1990Sep6.153723.20246@alphalpha.com> <141998@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> Organization: asi Lines: 44 In article <141998@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> argv@turnpike.Eng.Sun.COM (Dan Heller) writes: >In article nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley) writes: >> Application modal won't work without Mwm, system modal works fine. >Is this implementation responsible for the annoying behvior of Motif >applications where if you raise _one_ shell in the app, all of them >raise to the top. How can you allow these windows to act independently >from one another? All the Dialog's will since they are parented off of some window. If you create a separate application shell it shouldn't raise. If you want the dialogs to be separate I _think_ you could parent them off an unmanaged application shell but I'm not sure. I haven't tested all these configurations yet though, so I'm not sure. >> Not having pushpins means that you either let the user get annoyed >> or you create an alternative mechanism for keeping dialogs up. >In XView, pushpins in popup menus is implemented simply by creating >a similar base frame that "looks" like the menu and then mapping it >to the screen. The menu itself (override shell) certainly isn't stuck >up on the screen and left there... Right. But it used to be that the only way you could do this was to tell the window manager. Has that changed? Do pushpins now work under Mwm? >> In Motif this is the difference between the "Ok" button (which takes >> it down) and the "Apply" button, which keeps it up. You have both >> and the user decides which to select. Given that XView isn't made >> with a widget set I'm not sure how easy it would be to add an extra >> button to your dialog boxes. >I don't really understand what you aer asking here, but I feel >compelled to provide some sort of response :-). Unlike the Motif >toolkit, XView doesn't provide any pre-built dialogs -- therefore, Ahh. Does XView have any tools for building dialogs (forms, tables...), or do you put all of the pieces into a bulletin board? -kee -- Alphalpha Software, Inc. | motif-request@alphalpha.com nazgul@alphalpha.com |----------------------------------- 617/646-7703 (voice/fax) | Proline BBS: 617/641-3722 I'm not sure which upsets me more; that people are so unwilling to accept responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate everyone else's.