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From: jlr@eng.sun.COM (Jeff Roberts)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Open Windows 2.0 released (Sun press release)
Message-ID: <9009110043.AA12424@base.Eng.Sun.COM>
Date: 11 Sep 90 00:43:58 GMT
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Harry,

Re your mention of "Desk Suite programs", I thought I should clarify
the situation with regard to Write/Paint/Draw and DeskSet.  I work in
DeskSet Product Marketing at Sun.

Sun no longer offers SunWrite, SunPaint and SunDraw.  Those products
have been transferred to Island Graphics, and are now offered as
IslandWrite, IslandPaint, and IslandDraw.  In fact Island is actively
working on X11/NeWS versions of those products, using the
XView toolkit.  Island has not yet announced a release date.

There is a suite of productivity applications called DeskSet, from Sun,
that includes File Manager, Calendar Manager, MailTool, and others.
DeskSet does exist in an X11/NeWS version, built with the XView
toolkit, and it is included in OpenWindows version 2 at no additional
charge.  The DeskSet applications were ported from SunView using the
XView toolkit.

Sorry for the long response time - I've had some problems with internet
addresses and prior attempts to respond were bounced back to me.

Hope this helps,

Jeff 
>     From smitad@milagro Tue Aug 14 18:55:39 1990
>     Date: Tue, 14 Aug 90 18:21:03 PDT
>     From: smitad@milagro (Smita Deshpande)
>     To: jlr@Eng
>     Subject: fyi - DeskSet Mail
>     
>     You may want to clarify what DeskSet is and also provide a W/P/D 
>     status update.
>     
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>     >From xpert-mailer@expo.lcs.mit.edu Mon Aug 13 18:27:57 1990
>     From: lange!bochner@husc6.harvard.edu  (Harry Bochner)
>     Organization: Aiken Computation Laboratory, Harvard University
>     Subject: Re: Open Windows 2.0 released (Sun press release)
>     References: <11722@hoptoad.uucp>, <1990Aug2.025858.14871@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au>
>     Sender: xpert-request@expo.lcs.mit.edu
>     To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
>     
>     In article <1990Aug2.025858.14871@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au>,
>     ant@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (Anthony Murdoch) writes:
>      > On another note, the press release mentions a new version of XView
>     that makes
>      > it easy to convert current SunView stuff to X11.  How much easier ? 
>     I fiddled
>      > with XView a month or so ago, and tried to convert mush to use XView.  It
>      > appeared to me that you would have to have about 5 years of
>     experience in BOTH
>      > X11 and SunView to have a hope of converting anything.
>     
>     I haven't tried it, but I'm rather suspicious about the robustness of XView,
>     on the following basis. Sun has put a lot of work into their Desk Suite
>     programs,
>     SunWrite, SunDraw, etc. So far these programs are available _only_ in SunView
>     versions. The fact that they haven't released X versions seems to mean that:
>     
>     a) they feel there is some marketing advantage to having only SunView versions
>        (since it means that users have to be on Suns, as opposed to
>     X-terminals, for
>         instance). This would contradict the stated strategy of supporting X.
>             or
>     b) converting from SunView to X is trickier than they'd like us to think, even
>        using XView.
>             or
>     c) XView itself just doesn't work very well yet.
>     
>     This is just speculation: anyone have any information?
>     
>     Harry Bochner
>     bochner@endor.harvard.edu
>     
>     
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