Path: utzoo!utstat!helios.physics.utoronto.ca!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!mephisto!mcnc!wolves!ggw From: ggw@wolves.uucp (Gregory G. Woodbury) Newsgroups: news.software.b Subject: Re: uucp: PERMISSION (DENIED) - why? Message-ID: <1990Sep3.004423.25286@wolves.uucp> Date: 3 Sep 90 00:44:23 GMT References: <1990Sep2.004525.18064@pmsmam.uucp> Organization: Wolves Den UNIX and Usenet node Lines: 45 X-Checksum-Snefru: 156666ab 1b9853c9 8e4ec1ae 9128f06f In <1990Sep2.004525.18064@pmsmam.uucp> wwm@pmsmam.uucp (Bill Meahan) writes: >Can anybody tell meh why I occasionally get a PERMISSION DENIED 'fault' on >news batches fed to me? It's not like I have a basic problem with news >permission permissions (at least that I KNOW of :-) ) since I get a LOT >of batches with no problem. > >This does not happen frequently. Today's occurrence (on 1 batch out of 120 >so far **today**) is the first in about three weeks, but it happens just >often enough to make me wonder what I'm missing out on from netland :-) >(probably just the source posting I'm looking for). > >Anbody got any ideas.suggestions? > >For the record: > PMSMAM is an HP 9000/825 under HP-UX 2.1 (SYSV+BSD) > UUCP is of the HDB variety > CNEWS is used here (latest patch level) although apparently the > batch never gets that far. Hmmm, I occasionally see an error message "PERMISSION DENIED" for my main newsfeed to send a piece of a batch, and once, I actually was watching what was going on. In this one case (and in all cases that I am aware of - based on the information in HDB/BNU log files) the problem was that a file for the batch was transferred to my system, but something happened to the "X" file for the batch and the uucp connection failed in some kind of wierd state. On the next uucp cycle (invoked by hand) the feed site sent along the data file again(!) and my machine refused to overwrite the previously received data file when it needed to do something with the TM. file. This is the case in all the (news) PERMISSION DENIED errors that I have seen. (I think it could also occur if your system is trying to receive two files into the same name.) It does NOT necessarily mean that you have lost a batch. I suspect that this will happen more often when the receiving site and the sending site have different versions of uucp. (I.e. one is BSD and the other is HDB/BNU - e.g. wolves is BNU/HDB and mcnc is BSD.) -- Gregory G. Woodbury @ The Wolves Den UNIX, Durham NC UUCP: ...dukcds!wolves!ggw ...mcnc!wolves!ggw [use the maps!] Domain: ggw@cds.duke.edu ggw%wolves@mcnc.mcnc.org [The line eater is a boojum snark! ]