Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!usc!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!rutgers!njin!princeton!pucc!UNASMITH From: UNASMITH@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Una Smith) Newsgroups: bionet.general Subject: Re: What/who is bionet Message-ID: <11738@pucc.Princeton.EDU> Date: 19 Sep 90 15:11:02 GMT References: <9009190312.AA08209@lash.utcs.utoronto.ca> Reply-To: UNASMITH@pucc.Princeton.EDU Organization: Princeton University, NJ Lines: 57 Disclaimer: Author bears full responsibility for contents of this article >Steve Clark< [I deleted Steve's comments about private mail vs. public postings.] > To summarize, please please please always respond to the net, not >to the original poster (or at least as well as to the original poster). Were the bionet newsgroups of the type having lots of traffic along particular "threads" of discussion, the general awareness of certain standard questions would be high. Thus the new reader who asks "how do I do [infinitely familiar trivial or not so trivial task], might best be answered via private mail. It generally seems to work out well in other groups, with some replies going by the group, and some by private mail. (It is good form for the recipient to summarize and post private answers, but in many cases the senders of private answers *sent them privately* because for whatever reason they did not want the entire readership to see them.) Not only do we all get tired seeing the same old questions ("How do I unsubscribe?" is a good one), but we get even more tired seeing the same old answer times 'n', yet if the answers are all sent privately, the number of redundant questions goes up. Balance is what's needed. Unfortunately, balance is hard to come by. I suggest that we all try, no matter what newsgroup or subscription list we may be reading, to think before sending a reply about how to send it; by private mail or by public posting. The decision should depend on how much you like your reply (how carefully you phrased it, etc.) *and* on any other traffic you may have seen on the subject already. Toward that end, it's usually a good idea to set aside interesting notes (in a mail file or notebook) and read the rest of the day's traffic before deciding how (or whether) to answer the note. Yes, this means knowing a few more things about the software you're using, but the result is generally a significantly more sophisticated discussion. (And we all want *that*, don't we? ;-) > To address the other two points raised by David, one way to cut >down on the 'noise' is to not quote the whole original posting and all the >replies to it. Just the bit that is relevant to the point(s) to be made >should suffice. Yes! Note that I cut out most of Steve's note above, but I also tried to indicate that I'd taken a lot out. Some readers might not see Steve's original note (for a variety of reasons), so I have some responsibility to (1) fairly represent Steve's comments, in both letter and intent, and (2) to indicate where I may have altered the meaning of his message. Some people may feel uncomfortable altering in any way the form or content of someone else's message, but most regular posters to the net quickly discover that it is possible, if not highly desirable, to condense messages that have gone before. Save bandwidth, but be fair! [I have deleted Steve's comments about return paths in headers.] - Una UNASMITH@PUCC : BITNET unasmith@pucc.Princeton.EDU : Internet una@tropic.Princeton.EDU : Internet