Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!snorkelwacker!apple!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!psuvax1!husc6!husc9!cleary From: cleary@husc9.harvard.edu (Kenneth Cleary) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: How cheap can prototype chips be built for? Summary: (Small-quantities of custom designs) Message-ID: <4215@husc6.harvard.edu> Date: 19 Sep 90 09:47:06 GMT Sender: news@husc6.harvard.edu Followup-To: comp.arch Distribution: comp.arch Organization: Harvard University Science Center Cambridge, MA Lines: 16 I occasionally hear about students getting small quantities done as an ending to a course in VLSI design. How does this get done for a reasonable price? I'm talking about a price range around $1000 (US), not $10,000 (US). You can't tell me a student has to shell out $10,000, on top of tuition and other expenses, just to get some silicon... So... What places do these SMALL batches? What is the minimum order that you can get down to? Are there considerable discounts if you're willing to forgo high-density, assuming that lower scale integration achieves better yields, and less manufacturing risk? What is the cheapest technology for custom shops (i.e. CMOS Bipolar, NMOS, etc.)? What format do these shops need the design data in? What sorts of experiences have people had?