Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!hellgate.utah.edu!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: drilex!dricejb@husc6.harvard.edu (Craig Jackson drilex1) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Leaving Brief Messages With Free Collect Calls Message-ID: <12353@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 19 Sep 90 18:51:58 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: DRI/McGraw-Hill, Lexington, MA Lines: 43 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 660, Message 2 of 10 About the difference between the timing of ring-back and the actual rings, I think there are several things going on here: 1. I believe that at one time, ring-back really was the sound of the ring voltage to the other phone. (Correct me if I am wrong; I'm talking about the early part of the century here.) 2. In the days of mechanical ring-back generation, the ring voltage and the ring-back voltage came from the same generator and interrupter, so there really was no reason why they couldn't be synchronized. 3. Today, ring-back certainly comes from an oscillator somewhere; the ring voltage may still be mechanically generated. But they aren't related closely. 4. There always have been exceptions; for example, key sets used to sense the ring voltage, and then ring the phones using a locally-generated ring signal. These were nearly always 1/2 ring out-of-sync. 5. With modern PBXs, I would expect that the CO doesn't generate any "ring voltage" at all, but rather some sort of digital signal that says "there's a call coming in on trunk 3 for extension 4567". In this case, the ring voltage comes from the PBX, rather than the CO. I don't know for sure, but I would expect that the ring-back signal still comes from the CO. I'm sure there are a number of errors in the above, but John Higdon will correct them. :-) I'm pretty sure I've got the general information right. Note that it is in the interest of the Telco to give you ringback, approximately at the same rate as a normal phone rings. It allows you to make a more informed judgement as to whether your party is there, and probably allows you to do so sooner, thus freeing up common equipment sooner. Craig Jackson dricejb@drilex.dri.mgh.com {bbn,axiom,redsox,atexnet,ka3ovk}!drilex!{dricej,dricejb}