Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!decwrl!shelby!neon!neon!gumby From: gumby@Cygnus.COM (David Vinayak Wallace) Newsgroups: comp.lang.objective-c Subject: Objective C/Runtime system Message-ID: Date: 18 Sep 90 06:37:01 GMT References: Sender: news@Neon.Stanford.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Cygnus Support Lines: 57 In-Reply-To: silbar@candygram.lanl.gov's message of 18 Sep 90 03:34:49 GMT Date: 18 Sep 90 03:34:49 GMT From: silbar@candygram.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) I think I've heard that the new GNU C compiler (that will come with Next OS 2.0) will indeed compile both Objective C and C++ together. I'm painfully aware of the release status of GCC 2.0. I'm not sure when NeXT's new OS will be released but it will almost certainly be before GCC 2.0 is ready. I don't know what changes NeXT may have made to their version of the compiler, but here's the story on GCC 2.0 and ObjC: Date: 14 Sep 90 22:21:34 From: gumby@Cygnus.COM (David Vinayak Wallace) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Objective C In-Reply-To: manis@cs.ubc.ca's message of 11 Sep 90 21:14:19 GMT Message-ID: Organization: Cygnus Support References: <46039@masscomp.ccur.com> <1523@camex.COM> <9518@ubc-cs.UUCP> Date: 11 Sep 90 21:14:19 GMT From: manis@cs.ubc.ca (Vincent Manis) On the subject of the Objective-C mods to gcc, is there any word on the projected availability of gcc 2.0, which, according to the recent newsletter, will have both Obj-C and C++ support? 2.0 will compile programs written in C, C++, and Objective C. You will be able to run programs written in C using your system's libc, and perhaps a gnu libc soon. You will be able to run programs written in C++ using libG++, Interviews, or the NIH class library. With some work you could even use your system's libC, if it has one. You will not be able to run programs compiled with Gnu's Objective C except on a NeXT, because there is no runtime library. This is not NeXT's fault! I have also heard that Stepstone has trademarked the very name "Objective C" so the FSF may have to call it something else! It's a crying shame that Stepstone is shooting themselves in the foot in this way -- the rest of us are getting caught in the ricochet. All they are doing is forcing people to put up with C++. If anyone is (seriously) interested in writing or helping write the runtime, please drop me a line (gumby@cygnus.com). I think a lot of stuff can be adapted from libG++. Ideally full intercallability is desirable, but probably impossible to achieve. I've since discovered that Stepstone has indeed copyrighted the name Objective C, so the FSF needs a new one. Only one person has replied to my request for runtime help.