Xref: utzoo comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:1691 comp.misc:10143 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!know!samsung!umich!yale!cmcl2!adm!lhc!mimsy!oasys!dtoa1!dlee From: dlee@dtoa1.dt.navy.mil (Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.misc Subject: Re: Packard Bell doesn't really exist (long) Message-ID: <3450@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Date: 14 Sep 90 16:15:36 GMT References: <1990Sep6.154721.12322@iwarp.intel.com> Sender: news@oasys.dt.navy.mil Reply-To: dlee@dtoa1.dt.navy.mil (David Lee) Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc Organization: David Taylor Research Center, Bethesda, MD Lines: 38 Dwight: Regarding your troubles with Packard Bell... I was going to buy a 286 based Packard Bell this past Christmas from Price Club here in the Washington, DC area. A situation much similar to yours. The cost and the machines' capability was the best deal around. After much price comparison, I decided to get the Packard Bell for Christmas. Talking with the salesmen changed my mind.. he said that returns on Packard Bell was running about 40% from customers and that the Vendex Headstart unit was a better deal even though it cost about $200.00 more. Well.. I said to myself this guy must think I stupid!! After much additional shopping around I decided the guy was better nice and must know what he's talking about and since Price club workers are not on commission what's he got to gain. Eventually I ended up buying the Vendex.. How this relates to your problem is as follows... My oldest is in college, second year student who claims he's outgrown the IBM PC Junior (640K ram) for school and needs a bigger machine..ie. can't run his fancy games due to lack of VGA color monitor capability. He really only needs word processing capability for college at this stage. Well, this summer he looked around for a system and settled on the Packard Bell 386SX unit at Price Club. I told him to be careful, but he said it was a great deal.. $1900.00 for 2 meg ram and an 84 meg hard disc, VGA color monitor with 5 1/4 and 3 1/2 inch high density floppy discs drives. He did buy one last month before he went back to school. Well as you've said, the toll free help number is useless.. he called several times for minor information, it is a computer recorded message setup for touch tone telephones. You key in certain codes depending upon your problem; if you want to talk to a "live" person, call back on a number where you pay the charges between the hours of 7 to 8 pm EST. My son decided to ignore this service. The biggest problem he had was with the color monitor. We returned the monitor twice and the cpu once.. there is a faint but discernable thin purple line at the edge of the crt screen. It is not very noticable when the screen is filled with a picture, but is very annoying when the DOS cursor is the only object on the screen. We finally decided that it was just the way it is... perhaps software adjustable or poor graphics board design??? I had heard from some of the computers types in my office that Packard Bell should be avoid as their computers are made up of "non-standard" boards... Your notice does not leave me with a feeling in terms of my son having trouble free use with his Packard Bell...