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From: lgm@cbnewsc.att.com (lawrence.g.mayka)
Newsgroups: comp.object
Subject: Re: Teaching an Object-Oriented Pro
Summary: Don't forget Common Lisp OOP systems
Message-ID: <1990Sep18.021116.14143@cbnewsc.att.com>
Date: 18 Sep 90 02:11:16 GMT
References: <90@<PCG> <77500057@m.cs.uiuc.edu> <PCG.90Sep17170851@odin.cs.aber.ac.uk>
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In article <PCG.90Sep17170851@odin.cs.aber.ac.uk>, pcg@cs.aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) writes:
> On 16 Sep 90 04:37:00 GMT, johnson@m.cs.uiuc.edu said:
> johnson> Eiffel or Objective-C might have second place, but not by much.
> 
> Well, I have seen papers on several *very large* systems being
> commercially developed and sold in Objective C and Eiffel.

Also, many commercial systems are written in Common Lisp with Flavors
or (nowadays) CLOS.

> johnson> environment makes programming fun, which always helps a class.  On the
> johnson> other hand, lots of other o-o languages come with good class libraries
> johnson> and a nice programming environment.
> 
> Yes, but admittedly nothing is quite like Smalltalk in that respect --
> it's the Rolls-Royce of the OO languages. I have seen an Objective C
> environment that competes with it though.

You might want compare these with the better CLOS development
environments, such as LispWorks, or most of all with the Symbolics
Genera system.


	Lawrence G. Mayka
	AT&T Bell Laboratories
	lgm@iexist.att.com

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