Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!uunet!mcsun!ukc!icdoc!citycs!sb380 From: sb380@cs.city.ac.uk (Andy Holt) Newsgroups: uk.misc,eunet.followup,comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Internet routing Europe - USA -} Europe... Message-ID: <1990Sep13.081011.19298@cs.city.ac.uk> Date: 13 Sep 90 08:10:11 GMT References: <4862@tardis.cs.ed.ac.uk> Reply-To: sb380@city.ac.uk (Andy Holt) Organization: City University, London Lines: 19 In article <4862@tardis.cs.ed.ac.uk> anarchy@tardis.cs.ed.ac.uk (Alan Cox) writes: >Oh dear.. does that mean they don't like people running kermit over janet >lines, after all kermit is a file transfer protocol and it's not in the >coloured books (not even the yellow and purple spotty one 8-)), does seem >to be a certain amount of a red tape factory running here. Maybe the planned >shakeup of the steering committes of janet is a good thing. > Technically they don't! Mentioning Kermit at a Networkshop was a good way to get very black looks from JNT members (just like TCP/IP). The standard joke was "if it works and is a **de facto** standard, it is clearly unacceptable". Of course though the frog is the only viable file transfer protocol for some brain-damaged mainframes, newer (also de-facto) standards like zmodem give much better performance over phone lines. Andy -------------------------------------------------------------------- "I like to have lots of standards so I can choose which ones to abuse"