Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucsd!ucrmath!alchemy!hzink From: hzink@alchemy.UUCP (Harry K. Zink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: A low blow from Apple Message-ID: <157@alchemy.UUCP> Date: 14 Sep 90 07:10:14 GMT Reply-To: hzink@alchemy.UUCP (Harry K. Zink) Organization: Alchemy Software Designs Lines: 92 Matt, I would like to respond to your response. It seems to me that you are reading more into my original message, and that I apparently have not clarified myself too well. I am not asking apple to either launch a multi-million dollar ad campaign to push the GS; I am fully aware that the two machines are quite different and destined for different individuals; I am not asking that apple treat the GS as it does the Mac; I understand that you (and many other people at apple) build toopls to empower people. Nevertheless, as I have stated, the visible facts displayed by apple marketing and administration do not indicate any *relevant* support for the Apple IIgs platform. Sure, you are right that you build machines to empower people, but I am sure that you of all people know the importance of SUPPORT to the end user, as well as the need to provide the end user with what they need and what the technology can give them. Similarly, I am sure you will agree with the need of any sane computer company to support third party soft and hardware manufacturers and to convince them that the platform they are working for is a viable one. Your whole effort to empower people falls flat on its face if all you do is provide the machine to the end user and then let him figure it out on his own, in fact, making sure he realizes that he is now on his own, without a net. That is precisely what it seems like apple has done the past few years. Once again, let me expose a few facets of this problem: - Apple has not, since the introduction of the GS, released any significant upgrade to the machine. I do not consider the addition of 1 megabyte on the motherboard, and fixes to the sound and video circuitry any significant upgrades. Those were 'maintenance' releases at best. While every other computer maker has models (Amiga, Atari,...) that can run circles around the GS in many areas (except, I admit, sound...), apple seems to believe that a 2.8Mhz machine, with 640x200 resolution and 16 (forced colors) for apple prices is a great deal. Unfortunately, it isn't. - Apple has never, since the introduction of the GS, specified and pursued any specific markets for the GS (except education). The introduction of the overlay card, though introducing neat new technology, was too late as desktop video has been dominated by the Amiga by then. Plus, considering the price of an apple IIgs desktop video system, the Amiga is still more price competitive (ignoring the lack of any desktop video software..) - Apple still does not continue to inform the public (or even its dealers in some cases) that the Apple II exists. You see, Matt, empowering people is nice and jolly, but people need to be informed about what can empower them. Apple falls flat on its face on that one, except in the Soviet Union (and the only reason Apple advertises in the Soviet Union is because the 65xxx series CPU can be imported to the USSR, while the higher level 68xxxx can not. Also, the apple II is more familiar in the USSR than the Mac [at this moment]). I am not asking for miracles from apple, but I would like to see some actions and signs from those ivory towers that they do continue to support the Apple II platform. Furthermore, your statement that your sole job is to built tools for people so they can be empowered sounds very grabdiose, but I refuse to believe that you are ignorant as to the importance of marketing and market positioning. If you build a better mousetrap, the world will NOT beat a path to your door, unless you tell it about it. The impression I am getting right now (and judging by other people's comments I am not alone in that view), is that apple is so caught up in Macintosh that they simply do not place any emphasis on the Apple II line. A computer can only empower people if they are told how it can do so, and right now no one at apple seems to be the least bit interested in telling people how the apple II can empower them. In fact, I am sure you do not believe yourself that people have sudden visions of the right computer when they are looking to solve a problem. PLease, Matt, tell me how can your tool empower people, if they do not know about it. In fact, please tell me how can the Apple II in its current state empower people. Taking it on step further, in what ways can the Apple II empower people better that Macintosh can if they were both on the same price platform? I'm really curious about this. You see, I know what can be done on the platform, but all I see is that apple has successfully irritate a good portion of its user base, managed to turn third parties away from the GS (while continuing well to push them to the Mac - in fact, a wonderful Macintosh version of Rescue Raiders is available now...) - in other words, apple is giving a good indication that the platform is dead and that it does not care about it. Now, what kind of a person wouold invest in a platform that is sending such 'vibes'? Not many I am sure, and many buyers for which an adequet GS system would have been enough, are now buying either Macs or PCs. Building tools to empower people is a good thing to do, Matt, but it is equally important that these tools remain alive in order to be useful. Harry