Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!newstop!sun!amdcad!brahms!phil From: phil@brahms.amd.com (Phil Ngai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: Re: Can you RLL format the Seagate ST251 drive? Message-ID: <1990Sep16.070847.16262@amd.com> Date: 16 Sep 90 07:08:47 GMT References: <4285@trantor.harris-atd.com> <1990Sep10.162707.18613@amd.com> <11257@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Sender: usenet@amd.com (NNTP Posting) Distribution: na Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc; Sunnyvale, CA Lines: 36 In article <11257@spool.cs.wisc.edu> peng@chaource.cs.wisc.edu (PENG) writes: |I know Mitsubishi is advertising a drive (MR535?) that allows you to |format as either an RLL or an MFM drive. But I never see Seagate does this. |So what's the catch? Do RLL drives have to be better built? And therefore |Mitsubishi doesn't mind that their drives are being formatted in MFM? (because It's not primarily a matter of how well they are built. The thing about RLL is that, although it uses the same number of flux transitions as MFM, they must be more precisely placed. Things like a poor signal to noise ratio in the head amplifiers or imperfect write compensation can cause a problem. Apparently Seagate does not want to certify some of their drives as RLL (although many of them do work that way). I think all RLL drives can be used in MFM but there are plenty of rumors about how you can't do this, so I believe the Mitsubishi drive is really a RLL drive and Mitsubishi is simply trying to reassure those people who do not have RLL controllers that they can also use that disk. In my limited experience, most reliable MFM drives work in the RLL mode. I would expect that a drive which failed RLL to be pretty marginal with MFM but I will not claim to be an expert at this, I do feel I have an understanding of how MFM and RLL work at the bit level. No doubt someone will post about how he tried his MFM drive with RLL and it caught fire and burned down his house, but I don't believe it was because of the use of RLL. And there are stories about how if you use an RLL drive with an MFM controller it will give off X-rays and prevent you from having any children, but you shouldn't believe them either. -- Phil Ngai, phil@amd.com {uunet,decwrl,ucbvax}!amdcad!phil "Why would Xerox Corp. want a paperless office?"