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From: an12280@mdaali.cancer.utexas.edu (David Gutierrez)
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Subject: Re: MacX available ?
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Date: 18 Sep 90 16:53:45 GMT
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In article <10269@goofy.Apple.COM> han@Apple.COM (Byron Han, scapegoat) 
writes:
> The DEC LANWorks product includes the basic connectivity set (TTY, VT102,
> ADSP, Serial, Apple Modem, Text, and XMODEM), VT320, LAT, TGA, CTerm, and
> MacTCP Tool (for use with MacX).

Once again: We are *not* going to put 500 Macs on DECnet. Our DECnet table 
is already full - there are no more addresses available (even with Phase 
V, our state-wide network will remain crowded). We do fine with BYU Telnet 
(thanks, NCSA & BYU) for machines with TCP/IP. The one machine that uses 
LAT only is not sufficient justification for buying LANWorks. Besides, the 
LAT tool doesn't work for Macs on LocalTalk with a Fastpath connection to 
Ethernet, which makes it essentially useless for us. We can't afford to 
put 500 Macs on Ethernet at $800 a pop (not including $200 for each 
LANWorks node).

Which brings us to another topic:

I am going to recommend to our computer center that they install LANWorks 
on the Vaxen but that they *not* put it on any Mac. This should give us 
file transfer to the Vaxen via AppleShare.
For terminal sessions, we will use MacTerminal 3.0 if it lets us make 
connections via TCP/IP; otherwise, we'll stick with BYU Telnet. For mail 
access, we'll rely on DEC's Mail Router and a QuickMail bridge (also other 
bridges to get us to our IBM 3090 mail system and our PC LANs).
If we can't get a site license for MacX, we'll buy individual copies for 
those who want them.

In article <10269@goofy.Apple.COM> han@Apple.COM (Byron Han, scapegoat) 
writes:
> Hope this helps.

Sorry, Byron: this is not meant to be a flame. I deeply appreciate those 
Apple employees who take the time and the trouble to talk to us on the 
net. I'm sure many others will join me in thanking you for your help.

David Gutierrez
an12280@mdaali.cancer.utexas.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard