Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcsun!ukc!icdoc!mvax.cc.ic.ac.uk!suna!umapy03 From: umapy03@suna.cc.ic.ac.uk (K. Hampel Ext 6918 Supvsr D.Vvedensky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Where does UNIX fit in a graphically-based computer world? Message-ID: <1990Sep14.194015.6941@cc.ic.ac.uk> Date: 14 Sep 90 19:40:15 GMT Sender: news@cc.ic.ac.uk (USENET News System) Reply-To: umapy03@cc.ic.ac.uk (Kris Hampel) Organization: Imperial College Computer Center, London, UK Lines: 29 Just to add my penny's worth - here I am sitting with a nice big mac on my desk reading news on a sun three blocks away. So far I am using telnet, soon we will get X-windows. I will then be able to use a nice GUI on the unix machine of my choice. Unfortunately, things ain't that simple (yet): For one, we still need to buy an X-windows program for each of our Macs many $$$ here - no site license deals available yet. Is X on a mac fast enough? it is very slow on sun 3s. Will the GUI traffic clog the network? solution - just buy a faster one... (again more $$$) Are there many useful packages that talk to X? rather than a proprietary system - I already have one computer display on my desk, more would be silly. Will it improve my productivity or provide me with new tools? hmm - the mac sort of did, but I spent so much time tweaking my mac that my productivity plummeted, also true first time I met the unix command line so that could just be the way I work... It is a great pity though that Apple have tried to keep the mac user interface locked into mac-os (and now A/UX). Betcha they will try and sue anyone who tries to use it anywhere else... like on a sun over X... like I said - just a few comments (my OWN opinions, not my boss') Kris Hampel, Solid State Theory Group, Physics, Imperial College. =====> kris@sst.ph.ic.ac.uk <=====