Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!xylogics!transfer!lectroid!angmar.sw.stratus.com!jmann From: jmann@angmar.sw.stratus.com (Jim Mann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Rumors aren't rumors anymore Message-ID: <2316@lectroid.sw.stratus.com> Date: 13 Sep 90 19:37:16 GMT References: <7245@milton.u.washington.edu> <8084@helios.TAMU.EDU> <49392@brunix.UUCP> <49396@brunix.UUCP> <1990Sep13.164117.11003@svc.portal.com> Sender: usenet@lectroid.sw.stratus.com Reply-To: jmann@angmar.sw.stratus.com (Jim Mann) Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc. Lines: 17 In article <1990Sep13.164117.11003@svc.portal.com>, moose@svc.portal.com writes: |> |>Are you now claiming that your MACII's come bundled with common lisp? |>Nobody said you could not get LISP for it, just that you aren't forced to pay |>for it if you don't want it. If you are basing your entire platform on what |>bundled software comes with the machine, you have some serious problems. In a way, I agree with you. However, one of NeXT's big sales pitches has been "Yes, if you just count hardware costs we may be more expensive, but look at software costs. The NeXT comes with X, Y, and Z, the Sun and the Mac do not. Thus, overall, NeXT is cheaper." If the software someone needs is no longer bundled, then perhaps for them the NeXT is no longer cheaper. Jim Mann Stratus Computer jmann@es.stratus.com