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From: wayne@dsndata.uucp (Wayne Schlitt)
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Subject: Re: How about a "trial" group, was Re: c.u.wizards vs. c.u.internals
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In article <BZS.90Sep14161902@world.std.com> bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
> 
> No no, this is ridiculous, comp.unix.wizards practically pre-dates
> USENET, now they have to go thru this trial stuff because someone
> ("the system") made a mistake and rmgroup'd them?
> 
> It was just a mistake, undo the mistake, let's not make another 10
> mistakes trying to correct the situation.


i am not so sure that "undoing the mistake" wouldnt also be a mistake.
i think comp.unix.wizards is gone for good.  there are too many
systems out there that already have removed and aliased it.  all it
takes is a fair percentage of sites who have done this to make things
a mess.  take a look at the mess that {rec,sci}.aquaria is in, and
will probably _always_ be in.  some sites have it aliased one way,
other sites have it aliased the other way.  once the aliases are in,
there is no addition work that the sysadmins need to do to mess things
up.  it is permanent.

the vote was held, i voted no, there werent enough people who also
voted no, so i lost.  it doesnt mean i like the outcome, but that's
the way it is.  therefore, i have removed comp.unix.wizards and
i have put in the alias.  it really isnt that big a thing.  

if a vote was held to try and reinstate comp.unix.wizards, i would
vote against it.  if someone just sent out a newgroup for it, i would
ignore it.  trying to bring it back now would just be a big mess.

sorry.  the net is know longer as you knew it.  it's dead.

-wayne