Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!mailrus!uunet!lupine!bryant!mikeh From: mikeh@bryant.NCD.COM (Mike Harrigan) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: Spreadsheet for Sun w/ X support. Message-ID: <1577@lupine.NCD.COM> Date: 14 Sep 90 05:55:12 GMT References: <67778@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> <1990Sep11.114902.211@cs.utk.edu> <67791@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> Sender: news@NCD.COM Reply-To: mikeh@bryant.NCD.COM (Mike Harrigan) Lines: 27 In article <67791@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>, jac@gandalf..llnl.gov (James Crotinger) writes: |> |> Will these Motif-based spreadsheets (and other products, for that |> matter) work under a non-motif window manager? In particular, will |> they work under TWM and OLWM? |> |> Jim |> Well, Jim, you said a mouthfull. I've had the opportunity to try many X applications at NCD and this is one of the biggest problems. Application developers seem to choose a particular toolkit, then use the window manager from that toolkit throughout development, never testing with another wm. In some cases (I won't mention names, but you know who you are) they even do real no-no's like making the application depend on click-to-focus capability. Other problems I've seen include not being able to use X cut-and-paste (again, you know who you are) and requiring their own special fonts (like there aren't enough different fonts in the standard X release, so they invent a few new ones). It's up to us users to keep these guys on their toes. Mike Harrigan Network Computing Devices mikeh@ncd.com