Path: utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!umich!yale!cmcl2!adm!lhc!nih-csl!alw.nih.gov!jip From: jip@alw.nih.gov (john powell) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: RE:Spreadsheet for Sun w/ X support. Message-ID: <1990Sep14.082114@alw.nih.gov> Date: 14 Sep 90 12:21:14 GMT Sender: news@nih-csl.nih.gov Reply-To: jip@alw.nih.gov (john powell) Lines: 32 In article <67791@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>, jac@gandalf..llnl.gov (James Crotinger) writes: ||> ||> Will these Motif-based spreadsheets (and other products, for that ||> matter) work under a non-motif window manager? In particular, will ||> they work under TWM and OLWM? ||> ||> Jim ||> |>Well, Jim, you said a mouthfull. I've had the opportunity to try many X |>applications at NCD and this is one of the biggest problems. |>Application developers seem to choose a particular toolkit, then use the |>window manager from that toolkit throughout development, never testing |>with another wm. In some cases (I won't mention names, but you know who |>you are) they even do real no-no's like making the application depend on |>click-to-focus capability. |>Other problems I've seen include not being able to use X cut-and-paste |>(again, you know who you are) and requiring their own special fonts |>(like there aren't enough different fonts in the standard X release, so |>they invent a few new ones). |>It's up to us users to keep these guys on their toes.It's up to us users to |>keep these guys on their toes. If we want to keep them on their toes, then we should IDENTIFY those products that depend on OLWM or MWM or click-to-focus or .... jip@alw.nih.gov (John Powell)