Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!fxgrp!mikew From: mikew@fx.com (Mike Wexler) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: Spreadsheet for Sun w/ X support. Message-ID: <1990Sep17.173907.5422@fxgrp.fx.com> Date: 17 Sep 90 17:39:07 GMT References: <67778@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> <1990Sep11.114902.211@cs.utk.edu> <67791@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> <1577@lupine.NCD.COM> Sender: news@fxgrp.fx.com (News) Organization: FXD/Telerate, Mountain View, CA Lines: 19 >Well, Jim, you said a mouthfull. I've had the opportunity to try many X >applications at NCD and this is one of the biggest problems. >Application developers seem to choose a particular toolkit, then use the >window manager from that toolkit throughout development, never testing >with another wm. In some cases (I won't mention names, but you know who >you are) they even do real no-no's like making the application depend on >click-to-focus capability. This is not really the applications vendor fault. Its more of a time to market issue. When Motif 1.0 was being developed, the ICCCM was not yet complete. Motif 1.0 was based on a draft version of the ICCCM. Between that draft version and the release of ICCCM there were substantial changes. Because of this, most (probably all) Motif 1.0 based applications will not work properly under any window manager except mwm. This is supposedly fixed in Motif 1.1. As the applications vendors port to Motif 1.1, this situation should get better. -- Mike Wexler (mikew@fx.com)