Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!noao!ncar!mephisto!prism!sun13!sun16.scri.fsu.edu!sandee From: sandee@sun16.scri.fsu.edu (Daan Sandee) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Re: trivia quiz answers Summary: Atitlan Grebe Keywords: trivia quiz Message-ID: <675@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> Date: 13 Sep 90 15:00:16 GMT References: <1197@cluster.cs.su.oz.au> Sender: news@sun13.scri.fsu.edu Organization: SCRI, Florida State University Lines: 20 In article <1197@cluster.cs.su.oz.au> andrewt@cluster.cs.su.oz.au (Andrew Taylor) writes: >I believe the Atitlan Grebe from Guatamala is extinct, could fly (very weakly) >and may have been a subspecies of the Pied-Billed. Definite answers welcome. The Atitlan Grebe is extinct - I read an article on it, but I forget the details. It was restricted to the fairly large Lake Atitlan in Guatemala. Causes quoted for its extinction are (1) competetion for food by introduced bass, (2) habitat destruction by reed-cutting (3) hunting (although illegal) and (4) recreational development of the area resulting in more habitat destruction and disturbance. It was definitely flightless. It was regarded by some authors as conspecific with Pied-billed Grebe, but observations showed that the two species did not interbreed. At the time of its demise, it was classified by the A.O.U. as a full species. And as the A.O.U. uses interbreeding as the criterium for species determination, and as no further evidence on that can be obtained, it will no doubt remain a species. Daan Sandee sandee@sun16.scri.fsu.edu Supercomputer Computations Research Institute Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL 32306-4052 (904) 644-7045