Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!cbnews!military From: budden@trout.nosc.mil (Rex A. Buddenberg) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Shore bombardment (was Re: Possible BB mission in Gulf) Message-ID: <1990Sep13.011846.15917@cbnews.att.com> Date: 13 Sep 90 01:18:46 GMT References: <1990Aug17.023708.1350@cbnews.att.com> <1990Aug22.025605.16798@cbnews.att.com> <1990Aug28.042652.28982@cbnews.att.com> <1990Aug30.025707.28318@cbnews.att.com> <1990Sep5.014756.12883@cbnews.att.com> <1990Sep7.205335.13354@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego Lines: 29 Approved: military@att.att.com From: budden@trout.nosc.mil (Rex A. Buddenberg) Hanhwe, Terry is right -- the fire control systems on WWII vintage battleships was/is very good. Both for anti-ship and shore bombardment and both for low trajectory and plunging fire. Plunging is what you are describing as indirect or howitzer. The techniques for fire control are well developed; rest assured that the Marines can call fire quite well thank you when they need it and a BB is available. Look up some of the WWII battles for verification. The Pacific war, is of course, pretty well documented in Navy lit, but better examples may be found in the European theater. Look at the work that the US and UK BBs (plus a UK monitor) did at Salerno. And to a lesser degree in Sicily. Army credits indirect fire from shore bombardment as saving their bacon more than once -- bombardment turned back armored thrusts by the Germans. Navy got some undeserved bad publicity in Lebanon. Get past some less than well informed news and you'll find that the BBs did OK at what they are supposed to do. Main problem is that if you are trying to pick out a small target and minimize collateral damage, a BB 16" salvo is a tad much. Rex Buddenberg