Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu!v071pzp4 From: v071pzp4@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Craig L Cole) Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle Subject: RE: Liftoff Question Message-ID: <36479@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> Date: 17 Sep 90 16:39:19 GMT Sender: news@acsu.Buffalo.EDU Reply-To: v071pzp4@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu Organization: University at Buffalo Lines: 38 Nntp-Posting-Host: ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4.2 A couple of comments on the following thread: 1) Both the SSMEs and SRMs gimble - if you watch NASA select before a launch, they'll show the gimble test. The SSMEs move quite a bit! 2) The shuttle DOES use its aerodynamic surfaces to help stabilize the launch trajectory. In the Roger's Report, Challenger's aerodynamic surfaces were trying in vain to keep the stack together as the stack ripped apart due to stress. 3) As I understand it, the shuttle roll is to alter the shuttle's orbital inclination. The "standard" shuttle inclination is about 28 degrees above the equator. The shuttle can reach over 60 degrees. The roll helps point it in the right direction. A shuttle can obtain its usual upside-down position without rolling. Stand upright, call your front the shuttle, your back the ET. At launch, all you'd have to do to have the shuttle upside down is bend over forward. Say you're facing east and want to head north. Turn at the same time as you bend forward and you'll have just imitated a typical shuttle roll! 4) I know the shuttle has to fly upside down to reduce stresses, but I'm not sure where the stress are lowered. My guess is, the ET takes the brunt of the shock wave the stack creates, letting the shuttle ride in its "wake." Which would explain why the shuttle can't pop off of the ET before the SRB's are spent whithout aerodynamic stresses ripping the shuttle apart (like Challenger). I don't work for NASA or anything (yet) so I'm not 100% sure of any of this. But I like to think some of its right! Craig Cole University at Buffalo V071PZP4@UBVMS.BITNET V071PZP4@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU