Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: sulak@ge-dab.ge.COM (John Sulak) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Girl == woman & man == boy ? (was: Re: Girls, girls, girls) Message-ID: <5779@ge-dab.GE.COM> Date: 18 Sep 90 22:20:10 GMT References: <6290@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> <11927@chaph.usc.edu> <27089@usc.edu> <1990Sep18.012351.27167@agate.berkeley.edu> Organization: GE Simulation & Controls, Daytona Beach, FL Lines: 25 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: blanche.ics.uci.edu In article <1990Sep18.012351.27167@agate.berkeley.edu>, pedersen@cartan.berkeley.edu (Sharon L. Pedersen) writes: > And makes communication hard, whether or not you think it's > belittling. In Europe this past year it seemed as if most men I met > had been taught that "girl" is the universal term in English for > "female human", regardless of age. Once I was trying to find out the I try to be tolerant and understanding when speaking with people who speak English as a second language. I have struggled to communicate in French speaking and Spanish speaking countries. I learned German in the 1970's and my knowledge of 'modern' German is limited. When I learned it, however, I was taught that "Frau" meant "wife" and "Maedchen" meant "girl". It was either/or. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ "How do I explain to clients that society believes buying a rock (of ^ ^ cocaine) is three or four times as bad as raping a woman?" ^ ^ Robert Jakovitch, Broward [FL] Assistant Public Defender ^ ^ [from AP story 12 July 1990] ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Standard Disclaimer: These may not be my opinions, my employer's opinions, a devil's advocate's opinions, or anyone else's opinions. Are they opinions? -----------------------------------------------------------------------------