Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!midway!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!n8emr!bluemoon!feedback From: feedback (Bryan Bankhead) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Against AI Message-ID: <94y2P6w163w@bluemoon.UUCP> Date: 25 Sep 90 11:58:31 GMT Sender: bbs@bluemoon.UUCP Organization: Blue Moon BBS (614) 868-9982 & 9984 Lines: 21 I may get flamed to death, but I have to say this, although I have a vital interest in the area of AI, in science all pronouncements must be subject to COUNTERVERIFIABILITY. With this in mind I have decided to start a thread dealing with arguments AGAINST the idea that true artificial intellegence is reproducible. 1/ Intellingence occurs at the wrong hierarchial level We may not be capable of programming what is going on in our minds because intellingence is produced at levels our software is not capable of "backstrapping" (a term I just coined) itself to, that is our software may not be capable of instantiating our 'other order' operations in the form that our 'awareness' is capable of processing. There are known examples of this in computer sci.. for instance it has been proven that von nueman programming constructs are incapable of determining if they themselves are self terminating. Other laws of information processing may indeed prevent the recursive instantiation of the 'clockwork' behind our own consciousness. Pleasnote I have placed the number '1' in front of my above instance. I am sure you bright people are capable of adding to the list. Thank you for your time B Bankhead