Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: kaufman@Neon.Stanford.EDU (Marc T. Kaufman) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: ATM at Retailers (was: Voice Mail Passwords) Message-ID: <12439@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 20 Sep 90 15:54:43 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 16 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 667, Message 1 of 12 In article <12026@accuvax.nwu.edu> Dave Speed writes: >On a similar note, our local grocery chain has >installed pseudo ATM's for banking from the checkout line. Perhaps I'm >paranoid, but I don't see any advantage (to *me*) in giving the >merchant my bank number and PIN. Am I being silly ? You are not giving your PIN number to the merchant. The PIN is encrypted (mixed with your bank card number) in a ONE WAY algorithm by a chip that is in the PIN pad itself. The plaintext PIN never sees the light of day. Marc Kaufman (kaufman@Neon.stanford.edu)