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From: ken@animal.csd.scarolina.edu (Ken Sallenger)
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Subject: Re: Feedback on Computer Crime (really, hacker ethic, etc.)
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Date: 10 Aug 90 16:56:51 GMT
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In article <14467@wpi.wpi.edu> dmorin@wpi.wpi.edu (Duane D Morin) writes:

=> Oh, do you happen to have WordPerfect, MS Word, Microsoft Windows, or the
=> newest five Sierra games?

Nope.  Nor have I any interest in them.

=> I see one more letter with the word GNU in it Ill scream.

OK.  TeX.  X11.

Guess why I have no interest in WordPerfect :-)

In fact, I was once forced to use WP in a professional project, and let
me assure you that it was a nightmare.  This was an interdisciplinary,
University-wide grant proposal, with the contributors of text being as
many rugged individualists (i.e. academic scientists) as I've ever seen
on any collaborative project. 

You can bet that if I get sucked into such a quagmire in future, I'll
insist on using real tools instead of some wimpy word processor on
steroids. 

=> ...  What I would rather
=> here people talk about is what they think of the people who do NOT adhere to
=> such ethics, which is what I understood the original post to mean. 

Comments on computer crime reserved for a hypothetical future post.

What Duane has discovered here is that whenever someone is perceived to
equate "hacker" with "criminal," the _real_ hackers are likely to become
annoyed, and may reach for the CONTROL-META-FLAMETHROWER key. 

I say _perceived_, as in <14443@wpi.wpi.edu>:
=> ... If thats
=> what the definition of hacking is today, and it certainly seems to be...
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