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From: greg@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Greg Harp)
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Subject: Re: Amiga 3000 + AMAX == IIci?
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Date: 22 Sep 90 23:12:32 GMT
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In article <2376.26fb33e2@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> rapickering@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu imagines::
>In article <6956.26f6cc18@umiami.miami.edu>, gross@umiami.miami.edu (JD144) writes:
>> I'm curious...
>> 
>> Now, an Amiga 3000 can be had for about $3400...and the AMAX II emulator
>> for about...$450 (?)
>> 
>> What I wanna know is...if you have this little setup...to which Mac is
>> it comparable to?  Is it as fast as IIci (the A3000 and Iici use the
>> same 25MHz '030) or is it a little faster than the IIci?
>> 

Can't say, but I _do_ know that my 7.14Mhz Amiga running Amax is faster 
than a 7.56Mhz Mac.  (Custom chips, guys...)  The effect is minimal, and
wouldn't probably be significant until you were doing ray-traces or some
other major number-crunching.  (And why would I do ray-tracing on a Mac 
anyway?  Ever priced Sculpt 3D for both Amiga and Mac?)

And then I can still use AmigaDOS instead of the Mac's OS when I don't
need Mac compatibility.  That's nice, since I can't stand Mac's OS.

>And educational prices make the IIci around $3400.

Is that including a color graphics board and monitor?  Keyboard?  Hard 
drive?

The A3000 comes with a keyboard (what a concept!), graphics built in, SCSI
on the motherboard, 50MB Quantum HD, 2MB RAM, etc.  The educational package 
with a multisync monitor comes to $3039.  

>Gee, I think I'd rather have a mac.

Thanks, considering that the waiting list for A3000s is getting longer.  
CBM can't keep up with the DEMAND for them!

>Rob Pickering
>internet:  pickerin@apsvax.aps.muohio.edu  NeXT: pickerin@next4.acs.muohio.edu  
>bitnet  :  rp1voper@miamiu.bitnet               

Just what is the price of a Mac IIci with 8-bit graphics, 40-50MB Quantum,
KEYBOARD, hi-res color monitor, and at least 2MB of RAM?  List and 
educational, please...
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