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From: spock@wrkof.incom.de (Martin Georg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: A low blow from Apple
Message-ID: <1990Sep22.064214.12890@wrkof.incom.de>
Date: 22 Sep 90 06:42:14 GMT
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In article <1990Sep21.015000.28653@nntp-server.caltech.edu> toddpw@tybalt.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:
>In article <0093CF947DB21A40.00000110@dcs.simpact.com> scottr@gnh-applesauce.cts.com (Scott Rothstein) writes:
>
>>Apparently, Apple felt that ][ compatibility was more important than making a
>>truly great machine. We could have had a fast machine -- they cut it back to
>>fit the architecture for the older ]['s.
>
>ARGH!! I am sick of people saying this!!
>
>The speed of the 65816 was (and still is) WDC's problem and had nothing to do
>with the ][ compatibility at all.
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>
>Todd Whitesel
>toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu

Sorry Tood, but that's not the whole story, as I think.

A processor get's as much support as the company is willing to see the
machine where it is running as a machine with future. Do you think that
Intel processors would be so fast and powerful today without IBM's com-
mitment to them and the insurance that they will be used even in future
machines??? With the 68000, it's exactly the same. Without Apple, Atari 
and Commodore, the 68000 would still be the same chip as in 1984, perhaps
a little bit faster, but without those new 68020, 68030 and 68040.

And the 65XXX? With a clear commitment from Apple, insuring customers,
software publishers and the  market at all, we would see a true 32 bit
version of the 65816 with one or two years. It's only the problem of
Apple. 

If they can preannounce System 7.0, the low cost Macs and a lot of other
stuff for the Mac, why not such clear statements about the Apple II. All
Sculley can do is talking about the past and telling us that Apple is
seeing the "technological limits" of the Apple II.

BTW: Have you recognized that Sculleys letter in InCider/A+ was in one 
point different from that one in the Buyers Guide? He states, that "...
the enhancements to the APple II on the drawing board come to
fruition".

A little bit hope is left...

Martin Georg,
Frankfurt, West Germany