Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!aplcen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!agate!darkstar!ucscb.UCSC.EDU!unknown From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: A low blow from Apple Message-ID: <7117@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Date: 24 Sep 90 04:40:46 GMT References: <9009230630.AA24367@apple.com> <1990Sep24.032342.12923@utstat.uucp> Sender: usenet@darkstar.ucsc.edu Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing Lines: 43 In article <1990Sep24.032342.12923@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes: >The Amiga500, which is the computer most bring up, does not have better >graphics. It does have graphics' coprocessors and, unless you are into >interlaced graphics' modes, it basically has similar graphics to those >of the GS. But it doesn't have Quickdraw, is hard to expand, has a small >educational software base, and is not for educational users a heck of >a lot less than the GS. It is based on the 68000 cpu which makes life >a lot easier.As for the sound not being as good, that is an understatement. I was wondering if you think that education is the main (or seemingly close to ONLY) use for the GS... It seems that in your whole long post (that I'm responding to right now) you follow along completely with Apple's "the GS is for education" belief.. [For the time being, I'll ignore the fact that they're now pushing MACS into education] I think that GSs in schools are GREAT. Seventh grade was when I was first deeply involved with computers. And it was on Apple IIs. [I had used a Commodore PET in the 6th grade.. I think I learned a LITTLE bit of BASIC, but it was mainly for fiddling around and playing Sabotage! by the way, I just learned on TV's Computer Chronicles the other day that PET was an acronym... Personal Electronic Transactor or something weird like that]. My use of Apple IIs in junior high (and from then on!) was due to Apple's BRILLIANT idea of giving Apple IIs to schools and selling them VERY cheaply. Tangentially, today a new program (in CA only I think) began where you can give Safeway receipts to schools and they can get Apple computers in return... Strange it's a GS in their drawing, but EVERYTHING else is clear except the "Apple IIGS".. Wow that was a lot of rambling off topic... I seem to be known for that. I just feel that education is a FINE place for computers to be used.. I just don't want the Apple II to be viewed by people (and by Apple) as just an educational computer.. What about Visicalc?? I'm not saying that I -ever- expect the GS to be used much in business, but the home market exists... And as I alluded to before, I do have a GS (upgraded from //e) only because I used IIs in school and had to have what I used at school. But I haven't used IIs in an educational environment since my senior year in high school (I'm going to be a senior in college this year). There's more to Apple IIs than eduation. -- /pqbdpqbdpqbd Apple II(GS) Forever! unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu dbqpdbqpdbqp\ \"If cartoons were meant for adults, they'd be on in prime time."-Lisa Simpson/