Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!know!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!mephisto!udel!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!o.gp.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!jm7e+ From: jm7e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jeremy G. Mereness) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Investing in a IIgs Message-ID: Date: 12 Sep 90 16:30:09 GMT References: <37C339DF2A5F4060B8@albnyvms.BITNET> <90Sep10.200821edt.57352@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca> <1990Sep11.083835.16994@utstat.uucp>, <1990Sep11.123726.11265@uokmax.uucp> Organization: Computing Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 57 In-Reply-To: <1990Sep11.123726.11265@uokmax.uucp> > >I hope the GS NEVER becomes a Nintendo machine. I'm not putting the Amiga500 > >down, but its main purpose has been to play games( although they do have a >nice version of TeX and have a bit of a niche in the video area). > >Philip McDunnough > >University of Toronto > >philip@utstat.toronto.edu > >[my opinions] > That game machine you speak of is easily upgradeable to 1 meg and in > that state is at least as powerful as a Mac SE. > MY major gripe is that Apple is just charging too much for the GS. They > have to take into account what they are up against. That Amiga can also, very cheaply, EMULATE A MAC-SE!!!!! Why is there no decent productivity software for the Amiga? You buy a Mac-Emulator and run Mac stuff! I am amazed at how compatible these emulators are. Collin is right about the price of the //gs. It is too expensive for what it is, and the longer Apple waits to a) make it more valuable w/speed, capability, etc. and b) cut the price by bundling storage devices and such, the farther the machine will sink in the market place. Getting a GS up to speed is prohibitively expensive, as you've got to have memory and a harddrive. And then, there's software, which Apple doesn't bundle. The PS/1 is bundled with MS-Works, which makes the thing useful right out of the box. The GS needs lots more help out of the box to get it useful, and how do you explain that to a new computer customer in 20 words or less? Then there are the things we wish we had in the computer that don't come from the manufacturer. like a decent fan like the Conserver (mo' money) and decent CPU speed as with a Transwarp (mo' money) and some RAM to play with, not just the system minimum (mo' n' mo' money). Have we reached the $3000 mark yet? What else is in the Apple store for $3000 that's a lot less complicated? A mac, that's what. Third parties are great for hardware enhancement, but ridiculous for hardware necessity. Apple should offer a cpu that can carry its own weight without having to wait 4-8 weeks for a package from Applied Engineering. Well, the Fall Quarter is nearly upon us. So, where's ROM 4? Where's system 6.0? Amigas run Unix, for chrissake and cost half what Apple wants! Maybe A.Engineering could offer a GS clone with a Vulcan, 8MHz processor, 1.4 Meg floppy and a decent price.? I'd buy it! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |Jeremy Mereness | Support | Ye Olde Disclaimer: | |jm7e+@andrew.cmu.edu (internet) | Free | The above represent my| |a700jm7e@cmccvb (Vax... bitnet) | Software | opinions, alone. | |staff/student@Carnegie Mellon U. | | Ya Gotta Love It. | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------