Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!ukc!strath-cs!cs.glasgow.ac.uk!bru-cc!md89mch From: md89mch@cc.brunel.ac.uk (Martin Howe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel Subject: Re: Difference between a 386 and a 386sx Keywords: 386 386sx Message-ID: <1824@Terra.cc.brunel.ac.uk> Date: 21 Sep 90 13:30:44 GMT References: <1990Sep16.194605.11968@ecn.purdue.edu> Reply-To: md89mch@cc.brunel.ac.uk (Martin Howe) Followup-To: comp.sys.intel Distribution: comp Organization: Dept. of Elec. Eng. & Electronics, Brunel Univ., Uxbridge, UK Lines: 41 In article <1990Sep16.194605.11968@ecn.purdue.edu> tlhilde@ecn.purdue.edu (Troy Hildebrand) writes: >Can anybody help me with the difference between a 80386 and a 80386sx? The SX is to the DX what the 8088 is to the 8086, that is it is the SAME internal execution unit, but the external bus size is smaller in order to be able to make cheaper systems from it, with about 40% loss of performance (depending on cache hit rates). CHIP NAME 8088 8086 386SX 386DX **internal** CPU 8086 8086 386DX 386DX Prefetch queue 4 6 ? 16 bytes External Addr Bus 20 20 24 32 bits External Data Bus 8 16 16 32 bits >I have been warned _not_ to go with a 386sx when purchasing a computer, >no matter what the cost difference is. What exactly is the difference >between an 386 based motherboard and an 386sx motherboard? This is in >regards to third party motherboards. Are there any particular features >which distinguish the 386 and 386sx boards? The SX motherboards are pretty much the same as DXs, performance-wise, *if* they're ISA BUS (16-bits) based; a 386DX running over ISA bus is approx == to an SX, except when running out of any 32-bit memory installed on the CPU local bus. On an EISA or PS2 bus, a 386DX will win easily, unless the menory speed is lousy or the cache is badly implemented. Also, the max. SX chip speed is 20MHz and that's unofficial at the moment. The DX can be obtained up to 33MHz. Again, this means nil over the ISA bus, which is the limiting factor in speed for I/O or AT-style memory cards. Anyone making an EISA (32-bit) SX motherboard is likely to be off his or her trolley. If you see one, tell me what the hell a 32-bit motherboard does for an SX chip (:-). Regards, Martin -- - /| . . JCXZ ! MOVSB ! SGDT ! iAPX ! | "Good morning Citizens. I would \`O.O' . Martin Howe, Microelectronics| remind you that Armed Robbery ={___}= System Design MSc, Brunel U. | is illegal in Megacity One." - JD ` U ' Any unattributed opinions are mine -- Brunel U. can't afford them.