Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!yale!cmcl2!kramden.acf.nyu.edu!brnstnd From: brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) Newsgroups: comp.unix.internals Subject: Re: Finding Passwords Message-ID: <9102:Sep2521:04:0390@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> Date: 25 Sep 90 21:04:03 GMT References: <24590@adm.BRL.MIL> Organization: IR Lines: 21 In article <24590@adm.BRL.MIL> ssds!tims@uunet.uu.net (Tim Sesow (SSDS Rocky Mntn)) writes: > One way out: stick to TELNET sessions and ALWAYS disconnect and reconnect > before logging on. Even this isn't good enough. Despite popular myth, there is a way to sneak a Trojan Horse under a pseudo-tty (under BSD, at least). Please, kids, don't bother sending me mail asking how to do this; learn to read your own man pages. And what do you propose to do about public terminals? Too many terminal concentrators don't provide a trusted path. Many communications programs are just a bit too configurable. Some universities (like MIT) have an atmosphere of trust where nobody would take advantage of such problems; some universities (like NYU) have an atmosphere of trust where we'll draw and quarter any student who misbehaves and stick his head on a pike in front of the building. But it's still an issue to think about. Disclaimer: I've never been personally involved in sticking anyone's head on a pike. :-) ---Dan