Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!know!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!dsinc!netnews.upenn.edu!vax1.cc.lehigh.edu!cert.sei.cmu.edu!krvw From: panix!alexis@cmcl2.nyu.edu (Alexis Rosen) Newsgroups: comp.virus Subject: Re: Viruses in Sound Effects (Mac) Message-ID: <0005.9009251406.AA22228@ubu.cert.sei.cmu.edu> Date: 25 Sep 90 08:30:57 GMT Sender: Virus Discussion List Lines: 31 Approved: krvw@sei.cmu.edu Look, this whole discussion of nVIR in sound files is bogus. nVIR and its variants can only *infect* applications (including Finder and DA Handler) and the system file. Of course, it can *affect* anything. The assertion that you should check everything is fairly decent advice for beginners, but there are definitely many types of files that will remain forever uninfectable. (That is, with a healthy contagious virus.) In general, these are data files which don't contain information which is interpreted as anything like instruction sequences by a fairly generic command processor. Yes, I know that that's a pretty vague definition, but it's pretty accurate too for all of that. Note that this definition pretty much rules out ever having a complete active virus in a sound file (in the formats which we generally use. If someone were to invent a sound format that, like TrueType for example, were to consist of data and instructions, that might just possibly be excepted). I wonder about how close a "command processor" has to be to a turing machine in order to be ably to spread infectious code. Some requirements are obvious, some are not. Interestingly enough, this definition allows for viruses in english text. Of course, those viruses infect humans. Specifically, their brains. (Mention "memes" in sci.nanotech if you want to get flooded with info about this...) - --- Alexis Rosen cmcl2!panix!alexis