Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!zephyr.ens.tek.com!gvgpsa!gold!grege From: grege@gold.GVG.TEK.COM (Greg Ebert) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Electronic Car Brakes Message-ID: <1488@gold.GVG.TEK.COM> Date: 24 Sep 90 18:48:28 GMT References: <8581@ncar.ucar.edu> <1414@atlas.tegra.COM> Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA Lines: 29 Although somewhat 'lo-tech', I remember some of the electric-powered mail cars used high-speed flywheels (hence lower mass) for short-term energy storage. The motivation for this was letter carriers who took their vehicle on routes with curbside mailboxes, which entailed a lot of start-stop driving. They were manufactured by Garrett (now Allied-Signal). As someone mentioned, batteries tend to have rather long charge cycles. They correctly mentioned that a capacitor would probably be too large to serve as an energy reservoir. However, when HV technology improves, they might be feasible. The energy stored in a capacitor is proportional to the square of the voltage (1/2CV^2), but the volume (weight) of a capacitor is more linear with respect to voltage (and capacitance), so I would expect that using high-voltage capacitors might cut the mustard for fast-braking. Some simple calculations: Assume a 2000Kg vehicle (quite heavy ~4500lb) moving at 33 m/sec (~70MPH). The total energy is about 1 megajoule. At 10,000 volts, you could dump this into a 20,000uF capacitor. Imagine tapping into this when you stomp on the accelerator !!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ##### {uunet!tektronix!gold!grege} Register to vote, then ## | ## grege@gold.gvg.tek.com vote responsibly # | # # /|\ # Support the First Amendment, not the party that attacks it #/ | \# "I was, BANNED in the USA" - 2 Live Crew #######