Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!cbnews!military From: ron@hpfcso.fc.hp.com (Ron Miller) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Quality of Saudi Soldier/Pilot? Message-ID: <1990Sep24.001941.24564@cbnews.att.com> Date: 24 Sep 90 00:19:41 GMT References: <1990Sep13.012400.16916@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military-request@att.att.com Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA Lines: 35 Approved: military@att.att.com From: ron@hpfcso.fc.hp.com (Ron Miller) > Dan Flak: > > Translated into flying terms, if Allah wills that you will > have an accident, then you will have an accident no matter > how safely you attempt to fly. If Allah wills to protect > you, then no amount of daring will harm you. If things got > really hairly some of them would release the controls and > exclaim, "Allah has it (the aircraft)". I would have to get > in an aircraft moving at 600 knots, 3 feet away from these > guys! > I heard from Instructors at a Navy base in Texas (Beeville?) that training Iranians required a special tool. These guys were instructing in TA-4s which uses a tandem seating arrangment. The special tool was a length of broomstick to make the student in the front seat let go of the controls when he got anxious and started talking to Allah in Persian while frozen on the controls! (Clue: jab him on the helmeted head until he let go.) One of the Iranian students also traded shoes with one of my ROTC classmates while we were out flying. It was an unapproved, poor, trade. The Iranian got a nice pair of Corfams...... my classmate got some Iranian issue substitutes. All in all, makes you wonder how our elected leaders thought they were getting a good deal........ Ron