Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!dali.cs.montana.edu!milton!davidr@ux5.lbl.gov From: davidr@ux5.lbl.gov (David Robertson) Newsgroups: sci.virtual-worlds Subject: re: Authors of cyberspacish Fiction Message-ID: <8080@milton.u.washington.edu> Date: 25 Sep 90 00:50:05 GMT Sender: hlab@milton.u.washington.edu Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory Lines: 44 Approved: hitl@hardy.u.washington.edu F. Randall Farmer brings up Vernor Vinge as an author besides William Gibson who has written a fictional account of virtual reality. Another author is Roger Zelazny, who wrote The Dream Master, first as a magazine serial in 1964 and then in book form in 1966. Speculation follows regarding some ideas in The Dream Master that might be relevant to virtual reality: (1) Picking up subtle muscular cues to guide what Zelazny calls the Shaping, giving the sense of effortless control which is probably behind some of the desire to have an EEG interface. (2) Creating a world while in a dream- or trance-like state. Vinge writes about much the same thing, except that his has the advantage of being built for more than 2. An aside: the most vivid (private) virtual realities I have experienced have been lucid dreams, which interestingly enough are written about in Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming, by Stephen LaBerge and the moderator of this newsgroup. While the last paragraph is somewhat fanciful as far as providing gist for implementing a virtual reality, it does bring up the issue that it may not be necessary to brute force all the details of a virtual reality if the imagination is brought into play. Much the same thing is said by Kent Paul Dolan: (message id <7988@milton.u.washington.edu>) >To generalize, don't overdesign the early systems to provide every possible >sensory input. Start by trusting the body/memory/imagination/wishful >thinking to provide the parts that are hard to simulate if you only do the >easy ones well. David Robertson dwrobertson@lbl.gov ******************************************************************* ``What we call reality consists of a few iron posts of observation between which we fill in by an elaborate papier-mache' construction of imagination and theory.'' John Wheeler, quoted in Howard Resnikoff, The Illusion of Reality. *******************************************************************