Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!jarthur!ucivax!gateway From: leivian@dover.sps.mot.COM (Bob Leivian) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Guys and Girls, Ladies and Gentlemen Message-ID: <2418@dover.sps.mot.com> Date: 24 Sep 90 23:23:21 GMT References: <3461@dftsrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: Bob Leivian Organization: Motorola SPS, Mesa, AZ Lines: 23 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: blanche.ics.uci.edu In article <3461@dftsrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> xrarp@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov writes: >There are three common nouns for females... Girls, Women, and >Ladies. There are four common nouns for males... Boys, Guys, >Men, and Gentlemen. (Many others exist, but they are hopelessly >slangy.) The problem is not just one of mapping from four cases >onto three >When I write informal memos to my colleagues, I address them as >"Folks." I don't expect to see this usage adopted widely, since >it is pretty informal, but there is no doubt that it is gender >neutral. Does anyone have a better suggestion? The missing term is GAL, I always heard guys and gals when I was growing up. The problem is that this term is somehow not thought of as highly, and you are likely to draw a dirty look if you use GAL. So it now is creeping into use to use a sex-neutral GUY (go'in out with the guys, hey you guys), but I see nothing wrong with "us gals are going to the concert tonight" but some people are more sensitive. If you want a third term to be neutral such as FOLKS I think that is fine but sounds ackward. And where I grew up it meant older relatives. Bob L