Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!aero!cs.duke.edu From: gazit@cs.duke.edu (Hillel Gazit) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Feminism's ill effects on men? Message-ID: <654196708@lear.cs.duke.edu> Date: 24 Sep 90 17:18:29 GMT References: bia.edu> <653402616@lear.cs.duke.edu> <7094@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Sender: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Organization: Nefolet shel nemushot Lines: 35 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Status: R In article <7094@darkstar.ucsc.edu> (fOoDFoOdfOoDiTYfooD!) writes: >Please explain what it is that the 'feminist movement' has done in the >past 15 years that is oppressive to men. I'm curious... Here are some examples: 1) Affirmative Action. It is a legal discrimination against men that has gotten feminist support. 2) Child's custody. There is a feminist support in women's priority of child's custody. 3) Child's support. There is a feminist support in the laws the say (for practical purposes) that the man should pay, no matter what the circumstances. The idea is that a break in condom should mean 18 years of child's support, if the woman wants it. Period. 4) Presenting men as negative, evil creatures. "Indeed, one of the earliest forms of male bonding must have been the gang rape of one woman by a band of marauding men." -- ("Against Our Will", Susan Brownmiller) is a typical feminist approach toward men. Hillel gazit@cs.duke.edu "The continuation of earnings gap between men and women, the decimation of affirmative action in order to protect white men from `reverse discrimination', the rise of male victories in child custody cases - all of these attest to the need for a way to galvanize women's opposition and women's power in the 1980s." -- ("Caught Looking", Kate Ellis, Barbara O'Dair & Abby Tallmer)