Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!uunet!bionet!lhc!usenet From: usenet@nlm.nih.gov (usenet news poster) Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.genbank Subject: Re: ANONYMOUS FTP FROM BITNET Keywords: Internet Message-ID: <1990Sep30.043924.19653@nlm.nih.gov> Date: 30 Sep 90 04:39:24 GMT References: <9009290610.AA23614@genbank.bio.net> Reply-To: states@ray.NLM.NIH.GOV (David States) Organization: National Library of Medicine, Bethesda, Md. Lines: 46 In article <9009290610.AA23614@genbank.bio.net> BCHTANTW%NUSVM@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (Tan Tin Wee) writes: > >Recently somebody asked for help on getting random sequences from >GENBANK. One of the options suggested was anonymous FTP with the >caveat that the netter must be on INTERNET. >Even if he is not, it is still possible to do anonymous FTP via >BITNET. ... >Tin Wee TAN Even if it is possible to hack a path from E-mail into FTP, in the long run your best solution is to get on INTERNET. There is already a dramatic difference in transfer speed between INTERNET and BITNET, and this is only going to get worse. BITNET cannot handle files larger than 25kbytes without segmenting them into chunks, but 25k is pretty small (even a 2 page paper with some graphics will exceed this). The network protocol used on INTERNET, TCP/IP is more reliable than modems, and once your site is on line, much less hassle. Perhaps most important, FTP is only one of many services available via INTERNET. Until you have a network route which supports TCP/IP, you will not be able to use remote shell, remote procedure call, socket communication, and other services available through INTERNET. The importance of these other services is that they give you much greater flexibiity to optimize your communications and computation. For example, rather than attempt to maintain the current, most up to date version of a database on your local machine, you could use a relatively simple local program to send your search queries via the net to an up to date server, perhaps in another city. You save the expense and aggravation of attempting to maintain an up to date local database copy, and the net saves the traffic of sending the whole database. With TCP/IP, the turn around is still interactive rather than hours or days as in FASTA-mail. The arguement that "Internet is not free, we pay for it one way or another through taxes" is true on some level, but, in my view, misleading. The communication of scientific data between academic research groups is precisely what INTERNET was created to do. It is one of the support mechanisms the the US government provides to encourage research and development. Saying "Don't use INTERNET because we will all pay for it in our taxes" is like saying "Don't write grant applications because ..." David States states@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov National Center for Biotechnology Information National Library of Medicine