Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!helios!tamuts!n025fc From: n025fc@tamuts.tamu.edu (Kevin Weller) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: emergent properties Summary: somewhat agree Message-ID: <8745@helios.TAMU.EDU> Date: 3 Oct 90 05:17:01 GMT References: <1990Sep29.213139.2876@watdragon.waterloo.edu> <3499@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> Sender: usenet@helios.TAMU.EDU Organization: Texas A&M University Lines: 15 In article <3499@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> minsky@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Marvin Minsky) writes: >.................... But suppose also that some capricious God >imposed one extra, arbitrary law: whenever three stars form an >equilateral triangle, then they simply disappear. That would appear, >to a classical physicist, to be an "inexplicable emergent" -- until it >was added as a new law of nature. True, but I might question how declaring a new 'law' "explains" anything. It does from the practical standpoint of relative levels of abstraction, but it might not in any "absolute" sense. My definition of emergence has undergone a slightly pragmatic change. See my reply to Jonathan Buff for more on this. Regards -- Kev