Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!helios!tamuts!n025fc From: n025fc@tamuts.tamu.edu (Kevin Weller) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: emergence Summary: agreed Message-ID: <8750@helios.TAMU.EDU> Date: 3 Oct 90 05:35:40 GMT References: <3531@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> Sender: usenet@helios.TAMU.EDU Organization: Texas A&M University Lines: 18 In article <3531@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> mt@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Michael Travers) writes: >It's interesting to note that some of the better work done on emergent >properties comes from the group at Los Alamos that is interested >specifically in NON-linear systems, that for one reason or another do >not obey the superposition principle. These people (such as Chris >Langton, chair of the Artificial Life workshops) are very much NOT >asserting that emergent properties are nonphysical or inherently >inexplicable. In fact, they rather make a fetish of insisting that >complex properties like life or intelligence be modelled bottom-up in >terms of simpler processes. I have come to agree with your definition of emergence as methodological instead of metaphysical, at least in a practical sense. See my response to Jonathan Buss for a more complete description. >Michael Travers / MIT Media Lab / mt@media-lab.media.mit.edu -- Kev