Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!wuarchive!dogie.macc.wisc.edu!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!ccut!s.u-tokyo!rkna50!nttlab!icot32!hawley From: hawley@icot32.icot.or.jp (David John Hawley) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: emergence Summary: What is 'functional equivalence' of components in emergent systems? Message-ID: <7738@icot32.icot.or.jp> Date: 4 Oct 90 05:22:02 GMT References: <3531@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> Organization: Fifth Generation Computing Systems (ICOT), Tokyo, Japan Lines: 25 In article jsp@milton.u.washington.edu (Jeff Prothero) writes: >Perhaps the key characteristic of an 'emergent phenomenon' is that it >has interesting characteristics which it possesses *independently* of >the underlying (implementation) system? An implementation is a system that obeys some specification. Practically, specifications are incomplete, and in fact it may be impossible to simultaneously give a complete specification and verify compliance. If emergent properties of some system are not predictable from the behaviour of the components thereof, then it is impossible to predict which aspects of the component's behaviour might be relevant to any hoped for emergent property. For example, the apocryphal story of disk drives gyrating around the floor when presented with certain pattern of disk accesses, seems to be an example of a phenomenon (gross physical movement) emerging from the interaction of a program, OS, and a storage device. The fact that the storage device was not implemented as solid-state is crucial. In other words, the implementation is the interesting thing, and not the specification. --------------------------- David Hawley, ICOT, 4th Lab csnet: hawley%icot.jp@relay.cs.net uucp:{enea,inria,mit-eddie,ukc}!icot!hawley ICOT, 1-4-28 Mita, Minato-ku, Tokyo 108 JAPAN. TEL/FAX {81-3-456-}2514/1618