Xref: utzoo news.announce.newgroups:643 comp.misc:10259 comp.graphics:13622 comp.sources.d:5842 comp.unix.questions:25886 comp.windows.x:27615 news.groups:24078 comp.arch:18352 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!snorkelwacker!apple!bionet!turbo.bio.net!lear From: de5@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov (SILL D E) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,comp.misc,comp.graphics,comp.sources.d,comp.unix.questions,comp.windows.x,news.groups,comp.arch Subject: Call for Votes: comp.benchmarks (includes mass vote ack) Message-ID: <9009261856.AA19198@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV> Date: 1 Oct 90 05:14:00 GMT Sender: lear@turbo.bio.net Reply-To: Dave Sill Followup-To: news.groups Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory Lines: 303 Approved: lear@turbo.bio.net NAME: comp.benchmarks CHARTER: Discussion of benchmarks and benchmarking including reporting benchmark results and publishing benchmark source code and bug fixes. MODERATION STATUS: unmoderated HOW TO VOTE: Mail votes to de5@ornl.gov. Include "comp.benchmarks" in the subject and a clear indication of your vote, such as "yes" or "for" to indicate approval, or "no" or "against" to indicate disapproval, in either the subject or body of your message. VOTE CONFIRMATION: I may post one mass acknowledgment. I won't respond individually to all voters. VOTING PERIOD: 21 days from news.announce.newgroups posting of this Call for Votes. [Votes closes October 5, 1990] COMMENTARY: It's been over a month since I posted the Call for Discussion for this group. Response has been favorable enough to warrant a Call for Votes. The only issue discussed in news.groups on this topic was moderation status. Since there were only a couple of people who really wanted moderation, and nobody countered my objections to moderation, I feel moderation is unwarranted at this time. Here's some information from the original Call for Discussion: "There are lies, damned lies, and benchmarks," to paraphrase someone whose name escapes me at the moment [Mark Twain] . Like it or not, though, benchmarks are a fact of life in the computing world. So in the spirit of `knowing thy enemy', I'd like to propose the formation of an unmoderated newsgroup for: - Discussions about benchmarks including: . hardware benchmarks . numeric benchmarks . operating system benchmarks . compiler benchmarks . graphics benchmarks . window system benchmarks . multiple interactive user load simulations . validity of benchmarks/benchmarking . benchmarking as a procurement tool . benchmarking anecdotes - Publishing benchmark results . especially user-run rather than vendor-run - Publishing benchmark source code and availability info . including bug fixes/reports Votes have been recorded for the following people: ---- "Alan Rollow" "Christer Olsson" smidt@cd.chalmers.se "DAYHOFF, RUSSELL" "Dennis Lienke" "Edward A. Feustel" "James M. Armstrong" "John D. McCalpin" "Jon C. R. Bennett" "Jonathan Creighton" "Michael S. Pereckas" "Randy Carraghan" Aaron Leonard Allen George Supynuk Amos Shapir Andreas Bjorklind Andrew Wolfe BOWEN@ibm.com (Bowen Alpern) CJMCHALE%cs.tcd.ie@pucc.princeton.edu Charles Koelbel Chris Newburn Colin Plumb Dan Schlitt Dan Severance Daniel_Roedding@fiction.ms.sub.org Dave Sill David Parter David Wright Don Berlin Don_Lewine%dgc.ceo.dg.com@relay.cs.net Doug Kerr Ed Schwalenberg Eric Haines Ernie L. Ellenberger Eugene N. Miya Franz Haberhauer Fred Larsen Gary Tse Gene Spafford Hans - Juergen Buhl JM Bennett Jean Michael Liddle Jeff Beadles John DiMarco Jon Ross Jonathan Peatfield Juha Ikonen Jussi Maki Kathy Kuba Kees van der Wal Kevin Hammond Kevin Martin Kjetil T. Homme L-331,(215)270-5681,mattierp@smithkline.com) Lauren L. Smith Lee Hart MARC@ibm.com (Marc Auslander) Marianne Boudot Mark Emanuele Mauricio Breternitz Michael P. Gerlek Microsoft!gideony@uunet.uu.net (Gideon Yuval 1.1114 x4941) Monika Haerdtner Paul Digby Paul-Andre Panon RMG3@psuvm.psu.edu Rafael Hector. 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