Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!jarthur!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!midway!msuinfo!netnews.upenn.edu!grad2.cis.upenn.edu!aaron From: aaron@grad2.cis.upenn.edu (Aaron Watters) Newsgroups: comp.databases Subject: Re: Comment on the "Third-Generation Database System Manifesto" Message-ID: <30574@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 4 Oct 90 12:41:34 GMT References: <1990Sep28.173803.15043@odi.com> <7798@star.cs.vu.nl> <30441@netnews.upenn.edu> <7824@star.cs.vu.nl> Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu Reply-To: aaron@grad2.cis.upenn.edu.UUCP (Aaron Watters) Distribution: comp Organization: University of Pennsylvania Lines: 14 In article <7824@star.cs.vu.nl> roelw@cs.vu.nl (Wieringa j Roel) writes: > My point is that the >pressure of funding my divert too must energy from the research effort >to the fund-raising effort, that the closeness of commercially lucrative >results may hinder the open exchange of ideas, and that an excessive pressure >to publish results may cause the publication of immature results. None >of these dangers may materialize, but only if we remain beware of them. I certainly agree. What does this have to do with the manifestos? It seems to me this is an orthogonal issue. You also argue that the people with the most forceful arguments may be `wrong' (in some sense). I can't deny this either. What alternative to open discussion and the taking of bold and controversial positions do you suggest? No discussion? -aaron