Xref: utzoo comp.dcom.lans:6055 comp.protocols.tcp-ip:13197 comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc:3885 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:1857 gnu.misc.discuss:1803 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!clarkson!news.clarkson.edu!nelson From: nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Russ Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: Please boycott Xircom Message-ID: Date: 29 Sep 90 17:46:33 GMT References: <1990Sep26.042027.23110@news.clarkson.edu> <5DN%9T*@rpi.edu> <14568@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: news@news.clarkson.edu Reply-To: nelson@clutx.clarkson.edu (aka NELSON@CLUTX.BITNET) Organization: Clarkson University, Potsdam NY Lines: 33 In-Reply-To: dls@mentor.cc.purdue.edu's message of 29 Sep 90 14:10:02 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: image.soe.clarkson.edu In article <14568@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> dls@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (David L Stevens) writes: From what I've seen, and from what I know about people, I doubt that there was any conspiracy to steal anything. More likely is that they didn't even read the conditions applied to it and when the knowledge of their mistaken violation finally made it to the right people, they acted honestly and complied with the copyright. You're right in that it *is* more likely. In this case, however, Xircom knew about the GPL, or GPV (General Public Virus) as one wag put it. They knew they were obliged to make their source available, and agreed to do so for those people willing to sign a nondisclosure agreement. In spite of agreeing to do so, they will not. "Honestly" is not the term I would use. Boycotting Xircom because Russ Nelson and Don Faatz weren't able to impose their will on the people running Xircom isn't my idea of a worthy cause. I'm not trying to impose my will on them. I'm just trying to make them live up to their word. Right now, if someone from Xircom told me it was sunny, I'd reach for my umbrella. I can see where Mr. Nelson might be frustrated, and I'm sure he'll make every effort to clarify the copyright conditions up front in the future, but that's where it ends for me. But I *DID* clarify them up front! -- --russ (nelson@clutx [.bitnet | .clarkson.edu]) Russ.Nelson@$315.268.6667 It's better to get mugged than to live a life of fear -- Freeman Dyson