Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!dino!sharkey!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: goldstein@carafe.enet.dec.com (Fred R. Goldstein) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Data Lines vs. Voice Lines Message-ID: <12708@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 27 Sep 90 18:15:23 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: Digital Equipment Corp., Littleton MA USA Lines: 60 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 688, Message 2 of 10 In article <12623@accuvax.nwu.edu>, motcid!benyukhi@uunet.uu.net (Ed Benyukhis) writes... >> Voice is not packet data. It is not treated in a packet manner. ^^^^^^^^^^^ >It could be. VSCS (FAA) at Bell Labs is implementing just that i.e. >Packatizing voice for air traffic controllers communications. Voice >packatezation perhaps warrants some discussion/explanation by someone >more familiar with the process. How about it Pat???? [Moderator's Note: Fred Goldstein comes to mind. PAT] This discussion sounds like a rerun of one we had last year, around TASI, but I'll jump in anyway. I've even sent a contribution to ANSI T1Y1 for their next meeeting explaining why Digital voted NO on a proposed packet voice standard (syntactic and checksum matters), but that's beyond the scope of this thread. Packet voice does occur on the public switched telephone network, but it's not common. Old-fashioned Time Assignment Speech Interpolation using analog gear has gone the way of the FDM open wire carrier. But newer digital interpolation gear does exist, mostly in private nets and in international calls. It's not worth the effort for domestic calls, since raw transmission is cheap enough and any packetization adds delay, making echo cancellation (not so cheap) necessary. AT&T uses a device of their own manufacture called IACS (Integrated Access & Cross-Connect Switch, if I recall) to compress international telephone calls. (Undersea cables aren't cheap!) An effect of the fax explosion, which they reported at a T1S1 meeting, was that they've had to reduce the number of derived channels from each physical pipe, since there are no gaps in fax modem tones. So yes, modems do add a little to the cost of calls, but only overseas. IACS uses a technique called Embedded Adaptive Delta Pulse Code Modulation. This is like ADPCM except that the low-order three bits of a five-bit sample are not used for predicting the next sample. So if the network is particularly busy, it can throw away the lowest-order bit or two from each speech sample, by truncating the last 32 bytes in a frame which carries speech samples arranged by bit significance. Thus the tail end of the frame is all low-order bits. On average you may get 30 kbps or so, but during the busy hour it may drop and still sound okay (just not quite as good) and at real off-hours you may get over 32 kbps and sound better than normal. BTW, the ISDN service definitions for "telephony" and "3.1 kHz audio" differ in that the former permits the use of speech processing, TASI, etc., while the latter requires that the network listen for the 2100 Hz disable tone that modem calls begin with. ISDN interworks with the analog network using the 3.1 kHz audio service. But again, for the bulk of domestic toll and essentially all intra-LATA and local calling, you get raw circuit mode and the network doesn't care one whit about whether you have a modem or microphone. Fred R. Goldstein goldstein@carafe.enet.dec.com or goldstein@delni.enet.dec.com voice: +1 508 486 7388 opinions are mine alone; sharing requires permission