Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: brian%cyberpunk@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: References/Fixes Needed For "Slippage" on Dialins Message-ID: <12746@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 28 Sep 90 17:24:23 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 53 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 690, Message 9 of 10 When you get "twinklies", consisting of characters having a lot of bits on (especially high order bits) like }, you are probably seeing your modem attempting to resynchronize. (1200 bps 212 modems use synchronous transmission between each other even though you are using async to talk to them.) My experience is that the A-#1 cause of this is a defective or misconfigured interface card on one or both ends of one or more of the circuits that connect your university's phone switch to the local telco's digital switch. What happens is that the a/d and d/a conversions at opposite ends of the trunk occasionally drop a little data. In other words, one or more of the 8k/sec samples was damaged and was discarded at the receiving end. This has NO measureable effect on voice - completely inaudible - but it makes the modems lose sync and they blow 1's bits at each other until they resync, so you see lots of twinklies. Sometimes they switches are misclocked so that they drop one sample out of every N, so you see a periodic burst of twinklies every M seconds. This is always repairable, but it will probably take a transmission specialist to bring his special test equipment and check for it as the normal telco voice quality measurement stuff won't show the problem. We had this problem big-time here at UCSD when the main campus was on one machine and the student housing on another in the same telco office - the two switches in the same building couldn't talk to each other without sync slips. The DMS-100 switch was famous for this - I heard they had a production run of line cards that came from the factory misconfigured slightly so that they worked ok for voice but got lots of slips. I understand they had to pull every single card out of the switch to check the jumpers or some equally boring task. Now that PacBell has fixed that problem with our local switch, we see sync slip storms only once or so a year - typically when they've just upgraded one of the central office switches in some other part of town. A quick call to their technical people handling the campus gets it fixed right fast. I get the impression we find out about it before they do, sometimes. (We've got over 200 dialup lines and about 8,000 students and faculty using them 24 hours a day, so we have a large window of opportunity.) My experience parallels others in this regard - once you get high enough in the telco to find someone who can understand what you're saying, they'll get it fixed. If you're not in a position to bang on them from an official campus position, try to talk to whoever runs the switchroom in your campus phone facility and explain to them what's going on. They can get to the right people in the telco, eventually. Brian